Building a bike
Status
I’ve finished building my bike. This page is kept for posterity.
Research
Frame
- Surly Cross-Check 52cm
Brakes
- Mini V-Brakes vs. Cantilever Brakes – Advantages and Disadvantages Compared
- Probably will get mini-v or v brakes. Stronger and easier to set up and maintain.
- Leaning towards mini-v, but need to do more research.
- Mini-v will require a short-pull brake lever.
- 2022-08-29 update: Will be going with Shimano Deore T610 due to unavailability of the Tektro 726AL and other mini-v options.
Brakes:
- (Canti) Avid Shorty Ultimate. Expensive, but possibly worth it? Since I’m not intending to go for disc brakes, might be worth spending more on quality rim brakes.
- (V) Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brake. bike-components, universalcycles.
- (Mini-V) Tektro RX6 https://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=49
- (Mini-V) TRP CX8.4 https://global.bluelug.com/trp-cx8-4-mini-v-brake-black.html
Brake pads:
- Kool stop salmon supra 2 – general purpose
- Kool stop salmon type 2 – for shimano brakes
Brake levers:
- Shimano Deore T610/T611
- Dia Compe mx-2 polished silver – I think it’ll go well with the silver handlebar, seen here.
- Velo Orange cru brake lever silver
Cranks
- Blue Lug RMC Multi Speed; Black; 165mm; 130 BCD (Crank-BB interface: square taper)
- SRAM Rival 1 (1x11) (Crank-BB interface: GXP, 24/22mm axle)
I really like the aesthetics of White Industries, but they’re too expensive to be part of my initial build. Maybe as a future upgrade. Inspiration.
- Cranks https://www.whiteind.com/product/square-taper-eno-cranks/
- Chainring https://www.whiteind.com/product/square-taper-eno-1x-tsr-chainrings/
Square taper cranks tend to be thinner, because the crank-BB interface is thinner. A hollowtech II interface is wider, and therefore the crank has to have more material surrounding the interface. I’m leanings towards a square taper BB, since I prefer the aesthetics of thinner cranks.
Bottom brackets
- Sugino Cartridge bottom bracket
- Shimano BB-UN300 (Square taper)
- SRAM GXP A1 https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bb-gxp-a1
Freehub
Shimano hubs are generally regarded as somewhat silent hubs compared to other brands. For a truely silent hub, consider Onyx hubs.
- Shimano Deore T610 (8/9/10/11 speed)
- Shimano 105 FH-R7000 store, sound – Seems reasonably, not too obnoxiously loud
- Onyx hubs are silent. Do they still make rim brake compatible hubs with 10x130mm/135mm spacing? Might need to email them to find out. Looks like the only product that matches those specs has been discontinued.
Groupsets
- Shimano Deore M8000 (11 speed)
- Shimano SLX M7000 (11 speed)
- Shimano Deore XT (11 speed)
- Shimano Deore M5100 (11 speed)
- Microshift Advent (9 speed)
Cassette
I don’t think I need a 11 speed for riding in mostly flat Singapore terrain. I usually ride with 63 gear inches. A 10 speed 11-36 with a 42T chainring provides provides similar gearing around that range. A 11 speed 11-42 is the same as a 10-speed 11-36, but with one additional low gear.
- 11 speed 11-42: Shimano XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed
- 10 speed 11-36
Wheelsets
General consensus is that running a 35mm or higher tire on a rim with 17mm inside width is fine. In that case I’m leaning towards the Shimano 105 WH-RS300-CL. It’s relatively cheap, and with a fairly quiet hub. I’d like to upgrade to an Onyx hub in the future, but I’ll defer that upgrade for now.
- Shimano|Mavic A319 w/ Deore T610 hubs
- Shimano 105 WH-RS300-CL
- Hunt 4season aero road (freehub sounds quite loud though)
- Fulcrum Racing 3
- bike24 filter
- bike24: Fulcrum wheels
- Fulcrum Racing 5
Chainring
The chainring’s BCD should match that of your cranks.
- Wolf Tooth https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/chainrings/chain-compatibility_all-9-10-11spd
- 130 BCD Wolf Tooth: https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/chainrings/products/130-bcd-cyclocross-chainrings?variant=14782015209507
Handlebars + stem
- Consider getting a cheap adjustable stem to start with, to dial in the angle that feels most comfortable. As for length I’m leaning towards a shorter 60mm stem, considering that the CrossCheck frame has a relatively long reach by itself.
- Colors: Polished silver stem. Polished silver handlebars. Black grips (or brown?).
- If getting a steel stem, aluminum spacers will tend to be thicker and thus bulge out. Get steel spacers instead, such as these from simworks
Handlebars:
- Velo Orange postino bar – 570mm wide
- Ritchey classic flat 10 bar – Simple and cheap
- Velo Orange curvy bar – 680mm wide. Wider version of the Postino bar.
- Jones H-Bar
- Surly Moloko handlebar – a bit of a weird design, probably overkill in terms of hand positions
- Fairweather b903 bullmoose bar – 710mm. Too wide, needs to be cut down significantly, but then it’ll lose its charm. Not a good option for me, though I like the look.
Grips:
- Bar tape. I’ll probably eventually go with this, out of desire to avoid logos or branding. Consider this combination of cloth tape, twine, and shellac.
Spacers:
Stem cap:
Tires
- Rene Herse: https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/tires/700c/
- Schwalbe
- Panaracer
- Gatorskins
Headset
- Fairweather matte silver – Very clean design, minimal branding.
- Ritchey classic gloss silver
- Ritchey WCS logic black
- Cane Creek 40
- Velo Orange glossy silver – Only silver works; the branding on the black is too visible.
Pedals
Front rack
- Surly 8 pack
- Velo Orange Randonneur (cantilever mount)
- Nitto m-18
Tools to buy
- Torque wrench: https://dcbikes.com.sg/products/bike-hand-1-4-mtb-road-2nm-24nm-pro-torque-wrench-set-tools
- Bottom bracket tool
- Grease
- Pipe cutter
- Star nut setting tool
- See this post for more
Random questions
- What’s the difference between short/medium/long cage derailleurs? When would you use each?
- What gear ratios do I want or need? Need to decide this before we choose the cassette and front chainring size. Use sheldon brown’s calculator.
Random notes
- Consider Shimano Deore for the cassette and possibly other components as well. Seems to be generally regarded and having good quality for the price.
- For cranksets, aesthetics is one of my main factor. I’m not a fan of how Shimano cranksets look. I might use a SRAM crankset instead while using Shimano for the cassette.
- TODO: look into price difference between 10 speed and 11 speed groupsets. 11 speed is definitely overkill for SG, but if it’s not too much more expensive I might go for that. Otherwise I’ll stick to 10 speed.
- Not sure if I should be concerned about toe overlap. Seems to be a common complaint about the Surly CC/Straggler.
Unorganized info dump
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bikebuilding/comments/j2r5rk/choosing_components_in_over_my_head/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Surlybikefans/comments/p1sufs/just_finished_a_crosscheck/
- Silent free hub? https://noblwheels.com/onyx/
- Surly cross-check frame https://global.bluelug.com/surly-cross-check-frame-fork-set-black.html
- How To Build Your Own Bike (And Why You Should Do It)
- Bike assembly
- Bottom brackets explained
- Choosing parts for a custom bike
- About bottom brackets
- How many spacers needed for different bottom brackets
- Calculate gear ratios
- About BCD
- Mixing groupsets; what works and what doesn’t
- Shifting issues with a microshift derailleur? Shifting level may be too tight
- Choosing a wheel
- About wheels and hubs
- Rim width vs tire width (chart only)
- Can You Put a 9-speed Cassette On An 11-speed Hub? (yes you can)
- Install bottom bracket
- Installing a Surly 8 pack front rack on a cross-check with caliper brakes
- Installing a Surly 8 pack front rack on a cross-check with caliper brakes 2
Inspirations
- Loads of cross-check configurations with pictures
- Black with silver accents
- Black frame, silver crankset/seatpost/headset. Brown leather accents. https://www.reddit.com/r/Surlybikefans/comments/mcictw/crosscheck/
- Black frame, silver crankset/seatpost/headset. Tan rims. https://www.reddit.com/r/Surlybikefans/comments/o3b282/my_crosscheck_with_some_freshly_built_wheels/
- Black on black. I like the tan rims on a black bike. https://www.reddit.com/r/Surlybikefans/comments/mcictw/crosscheck/gs60f6f/
Gear ratio comparison
Torque reference
For my specific bike, so I don’t have to keep looking it up for my specific parts
- Saddle clamp: 11 nm
- Seatpost: 8 nm
- Brake levers: 9nm
- Stem to steerer clamp: 6 nm